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Voter demographics for the 2012 presidential election

votersThe charts above (click to enlarge) show some of the voting patterns by age, race, and gender in the 2012 presidential election, and there are lots of additional voter demographic breakdowns here at the CNN Election Center. It’s maybe obvious, but still interesting to see the voting pattern by age (older voters preferred Romney), by gender and race (56% of white women voted for Romney, and 96% of black women voted for Obama), and by race (73% of Asians voted for Obama), etc.

HT: Alex Pollock

35 thoughts on “Voter demographics for the 2012 presidential election

  1. Clearly, this chart demonstrates the GOP needs 12 million mostly poverty stricken, low skilled illegal immigrants to be come new voters.

    • Your sarcasm is well-taken, but really, what difference does it make at this point?

      Let’s assume that every single illegal immigrant would get deported – then what?

      Nothing would substantially change. Even if the next GOP nominee got to 60%, it isn’t sure they’d win it. Most likely not.

      Whites are still far less ethnocentric than any other ethnic group in this country – which is amusing, considering that you constantly hear about ‘white racism’ in the MSM. And I expect that to continue. Many conservatives are terrified about standing up for policies that might benefit whites, because they’ve been whipped into submissiveness by the media. Affirmative action or restrictive immigration policy are two obvious areas where there are clashing ethnic interests and de-facto white interests.

      But again, most conservatives are incredibly unwilling to talk about race in a forthright manner. I’ve noticed this pattern not just about the so-called ‘leaders’, but also among the mainstream followers.

      And until that mentality change, nothing will change. But if that mentality would change, the country is really past a demographic point when you could rely on white voters primarily as the GOP does.

      This will inevitably lead to a much more California-like situation. But I can’t say that I feel sorry for the GOP. It collaborated to a large extent with it’s own destruction.

      I mean, these patterns were easily foreseeable decades ago. Nobody can say that this is a shock. And you can’t only blame the GOP leaders. People get the leaders they elect. And that includes the GOP base.

      • Small correction. “Even if the next GOP nominee would get 60%” means 60% of white voters. There’s no edit function so this will do for now.

      • most conservatives are incredibly unwilling to talk about race in a forthright manner. I’ve noticed this pattern not just about the so-called ‘leaders’, but also among the mainstream followers“…

        ROFLMAO!

        What’s to talk about?

        Only the liberal losers worry about race…

      • David: “most conservatives are incredibly unwilling to talk about race in a forthright manner. ”

        IMO, race will not be nearly as important a factor as will policy. If Republicans continue to emphasize pro-life and anti-immigrant positions, they will continue to lose. Furthermore, Romney and others have done more to polarize the electorate by blaming citizens (“47% of the people … believe they are victims … are dependent on the government”) instead of focusing on how government transfers cannot lead to prosperity.

        Certainly race mattered to African-Americans when they had the first opportunity to elect a black president. But African Americans have voted overwhelmingly for Democrats for many decades.

        One more thing: the term “race” has less meaning now than ever before in U.S. history. With each successive generation, mixed marriages are becoming more and more common.

        • “If Republicans continue to emphasize pro-life and anti-immigrant positions, they will continue to lose.”

          Disagree. The pro-life polls ebb and flow. tI’s not an issue that’s on many front burners.
          And the GOP is not “anti-immigrant,” there’s a faction of us that are anti-illegal immigrant, and I’m sure you know the distinction. But do you know the costs?

          http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2007/06/amnesty-will-cost-us-taxpayers-at-least-26-trillion

          • Paul,

            I am pro-life. But I also recognize that many, if not most, women support the right of women to make that choice for themselves. Just because a woman is pro-life does not mean that they want the government to take away the right for a woman to make that choice. And that’s what many Republican politicians misunderstand.

            If you think the ebbing and flowing polls mean that Republicans can take a strong position on abortion and win elections, you are going to be disappointed.

          • Paul: “there’s a faction of us that are anti-illegal immigrant,”

            And if that faction wants their candidates to win national elections, they should STFU.

          • “And if that faction wants their candidates to win national elections, they should STFU.”

            And do what? Win the Hispanic vote? Yeah, good luck with that. Reagan’s amnesty in ’86 netted Bush Sr 30% of the Hispanic vote 2 yrs later.

            I’m not saying we should try to alienate anyone, but more amnesty is a recipe for the extinction of the GOP and of the USA as we know it.

          • “If you think the ebbing and flowing polls mean that Republicans can take a strong position on abortion and win elections, you are going to be disappointed.”

            You act like no pro-life politician has ever won an election.
            And speaking of strong positions, Obama voted for what amounts to infanticide while in the Illinois Senate. Should we embrace that also?
            Here’s an idea: let’s just jettison all our issues and become just like the Democrats. Yay, then we’ll win…what, exactly?

          • Paul: “let’s just jettison all our issues and become just like the Democrats. Yay, then we’ll win…what, exactly?”

            No one is suggesting that Republiucans “jettison all our issues”. But Republicans need to face reality: the nation is sharply divided on the issues of illegal immigration and government restrictions on abortion. If our candidates campaign on those issues, we will lose.

          • “If our candidates campaign on those issues, we will lose.”

            That’s just your opinion. Fact: If our candidates sign off on amnesty, we all lose. Electorally and economically, it’s a loser for most of the people who actually pay the taxes to fund the welfare state.

            Also, the Center for Immigration Studies has a new poll out that says you are wrong about the political implications:

            “A new poll shows that only 11 percent of likely voters strongly back a conditional amnesty for 11 million illegal immigrants, while 39 percent of the voters strongly favor the immigrants’ gradual return to their home countries.”

            http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/07/anti-immigration-group-says-polls-showing-support-for-pathway-to-citizenship-are-all-wrong/#ixzz2KKwqW7mh

        • Paul: “You act like no pro-life politician has ever won an election.”

          I am not aware of a Republican presidential candidate who campaigned against abortion and won – at least not in the past 25 years. George W. Bush was very clear in stating that he would not attempt to overturn Roe vs Wade. He said clearly that a Pro-Life stance was not a litmus test for judicial appointments – that he would appoint pro-choice judges.

          • And yet Bush made clear he was pro-life and won. As did Reagan and Bush Sr. The public is ignorant. A campaign that sought to educate the public about the horrors of abortion could do wonders in moving the needle to the pro-life position.

          • re: “mob rule” = representative elective government

            re: other options = dictator/strongman, anything else?

  2. Obama deserves credit for running a great campaign, because he should’ve lost by one of the biggest landslides in U.S. history.

  3. “Al Gore picked up 90 per cent of the black vote in 2000; John Kerry got 88 per cent in 2004.

    Over the past five decades, only one Republican candidate has picked up more than 15 per cent of the African-American vote – and that was George H. W. Bush, in 1988, against the wildly unpopular Michael Dukakis.”

  4. The last Presidential election in which more white voters voted for a Democrat over a Republican was 1964. Easy to see why the Democrats court splinter groups. In 1964 over 90% of voters were white. In 2012 white voters were 72%.

    • And due to birth rate differences the white voters will shrink at every future election. If you look at the ratio of children by ethnic group you see the way the future electorate will look.

  5. getting elected to lead in the US means being elected to govern and that means the people you would govern believe in you and your policies to address their interests. It does not mean they want free stuff. If you think that or are dumb enough to say it out loud – you ought not to be governing in the first place IMHO.

    The GOP and Conservatives seem bound and determined to be “deniers” of this and cling to the flimsy excuse that it’s all about giving goodies to the folks who won’t vote for them.

    Well that’s a good way to NOT try to attract those voters – just call them parasites at election time and then cry about how people won’t vote for you.

    I mean WTF! EVEN if you believe it – why say it out loud? I mean politicians lie their butts off all the time on just about everything to keep votes, why are they so bound and determined to be kamikazes on this issue?

    It becomes clear to me that the GOP/Conservatives do not want really to govern. They want to IMPOSE their own unfettered principles rather than reflect the various different constituencies concerns and values.

    Anyone who believes that people do not want a good paying job instead of getting govt “goodies” ain’t playing with a full deck anyhow in my view. It’s a flimsy excuse for denying the realities.

    People want jobs. They want a paycheck. They want to feel the pride that goes with knowing they are looking out for themselves and their families without having to take charity – govt or private.

    If you don’t believe this then you ought not be presenting yourself as someone who wants to get elected and lead the country.

    When the GOP convention attendees demographics equal the demographics of the GOP leaders on stage – we’ll know the GOP has found Jesus.

    Until then – they have to deal with the reality that in the United States – the founding fathers did indeed set the country up to run on one man, one vote and if you want to govern – you have to be elected and if you want to be elected in “mixing pot” – you have to get your share of each different parts of that pot.

    so every time I hear a GOP or Conservative say the reason ROmney lost was because the the parasites and takers knew he wouldn’t be giving them “goodies” – I think this is defus-talk for “naw…we really don’t want to be elected and we’re so pissed off about having to actually win votes from those who are not like “us” that we’ll just diss and denigrate entire races and cultures and genders and anyone who is not like us and that’s our excuse for becoming a permanent minority.

    • Quote from LarryG: “It becomes clear to me that the GOP/Conservatives do not want really to govern. They want to IMPOSE their own unfettered principles rather than reflect the various different constituencies concerns and values.”

      What do you think “governing” your modern state means? It means you have to buy the state mandated products, or they’ll kill you. It means you have to give them all of your property that they demand, or they’ll kill you. It means you must surrender you liberty and dignity, or they’ll kill you.

      You truly must live in a fantasy.

      • re: ” What do you think “governing” your modern state means? It means you have to buy the state mandated products, or they’ll kill you. It means you have to give them all of your property that they demand, or they’ll kill you. It means you must surrender you liberty and dignity, or they’ll kill you.

        You truly must live in a fantasy.”

        “governing” means simply that in the US since we have an elected representative government that you convince the folks that vote that you will represent them if you get elected.

        you don’t need no stinking anti-govt pejoratives about killing people and taking property – unless of course you believe that ANY elected representative govt is essentially that – in which case you probably do not believe in elective representative governance in the first place and would prefer to IMPOSE your beliefs on others even if they don’t agree with you,

        You have to make up your mind about what kind of governance you want – elected/representative or king/strongman and then once you do decide – you need to find the country that best reflects your own beliefs or truly try to change the one you do live in but you won’t be changing it by pissing off the people who do vote.

        It’s called leadership. If you, as a leader, think too many people are “taking” or not “making” – you as a leader – if you want to stay a leader, have to successfully make the case to those who would elect you to buy into what you are saying.

        If you don’t want to play that game in an elective representative govt, I would assert that you basically do not believe in elected representative govt then……

    • I see Larry’s weighing in again with his usual fact-free content.

      “It does not mean they want free stuff.”

      Yeah, it does.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tpAOwJvTOio

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Ww2m0TK34Q

      “If you don’t believe this then you ought not be presenting yourself as someone who wants to get elected and lead the country.”

      We believe a large % of Obama voters are parasites because we live in the real world.

      “People want jobs. They want a paycheck.”

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