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  1. K Scott says:

    I don’t think you should just dismiss “aging baby boomers” who can’t get jobs. Social Security requires people to work till they are sixty-seven now and would like people to work longer. I wanted to work till I was older than I actually was when I retired. But the older you are the less likely you are to be hired. So that means the strain on the Social Security system will keep increasing. Maybe the numbers working till sixty-seven and seventy should also be considered when we consider unemployment.

  2. Frank LdR says:

    One has to be skeptical of historical presidential voting models,as an unprecedented number of Americans are “emotionally invested” in Obama. They, quite frankly, will give him a pass on anything
    and blaming it on Republicans.The media is firmly in the hopemongers pocket again and shows no sign of slowing down the propaganda machine. That said,independents may finally be waking up,aloowing for a close, if not, fair election come this November.

    • geriwithag says:

      Working with a number of young people I don’t hear a lot of support for the president. He does have his devotees, but I think voting for him just because he’s the first Black president was a one time thing.

    • Robert says:

      Many of the people who are emotionally invested in him are already dedicated Democrats. As a result, this election will be on par with those in the past, where the state of the economy in November will determine who the independents favor.

  3. John says:

    You are under the impression that for the left or the media to report something as fact, it has to be true.

    Not so. For them, merely wishing something to be true is sufficient to qualify it as a fact.

    • NWBill says:

      John is absolutely right. The legacy media in this country stopped being apolitical decades ago; EVERYTHING they do these days has a political element attached to it. And if we hadn’t invented the Internet, they would be FAR MORE POWERFUL than they are, even now. They realized long ago their potential to make and control reality for a lot of people – and now they use it with no conscience involved in the process.
      This is why the left, the legacy media, and Hollywood have such a close relationship; they are literally the scorpion and the frog of the old myth tale for each other; they serve each other’s interests so closely when it’s necessary …but acknowledge that THEY ARE, AT THEIR NATURE, WHO THEY ARE – and that’s OK for them.
      One of the few saving graces citizens have left in this country is the fact that there are no longer just a handful of news and communications sources available; now, anyone with access to a computer can decide what is added to their knowledge, and what’s left at the gate.
      The programming that started early in school is very difficult to defeat for most people in the US; you need to be willing to UNLEARN and RELEARN and CHALLENGE EVERYTHING. Few people are strong enough to do it, few people see any reason TO do it.
      Welcome to America in the 21st century.

    • John says:

      This snopes article does not contradict the above article. The Snopes article addresses whether the number of unemployed collecting benefits causes unemployment to be understated.

      The point of the article above is simply that further analysis (using numbers also provided by the government) gives a deeper understanding of the CPS-based numbers, showing that the denominator (total people who want to work full time) is shrinking faster than the rate at which people are retiring, which indicates they are simply dropping out of the labor force.

  4. deron says:

    Why do you glaze over the “sky high” 15.1% U6 number. It is high, but has also been on a declining trend. It includes all discouraged workers and part-timers who want full time work. It is the most comprehensive measure the BLS puts out. The U6 numbers are high but encouraging, that’s undeniable, unless you don’t believe the numbers coming out of the BLS. If we can’t agree on the official numbers, there is no basis for debate.

    One thing I don’t understand is why the MSM does not report the U6 number instead; the U3 number is so flawed and is almost useless.

  5. geek49203 says:

    I don’t think that most in the press do more than read (or cut-n-paste) from either the US Dept of Labor report, or their local state reports. In most cases, that language is skewed to favor “their bosses”, ie, the party in power.

    Sadly, most reporters went into Journalism school ’cause there was no math involved… and it shows.

  6. Karl says:

    We added 2.2 million private sector jobs in 2011. We have added 3.6 million private sector jobs since February 2010. While the unemployment rate is affected by work force participation numbers, that is not the only or even the primary reason that the unemployment rate is falling.

    • James says:

      You’re not very good at math, are you?
      How many jobs did the private sector lose? The numbers you are using are not Net numbers. Go look up “Net” and see the definition.

  7. RA says:

    Regardless of how the labor numbers appear, this is a tough economy.

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